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in reply to: question – first post #3283 |

celticpiping wrote:

Hello, maybe a numb question, but is theknightstemplar.org affiliated with
‘The Sovereign Military Order of the Temple ofJerusalem”?
Regards,
Rich

Hello Rick and welcome to our Templar Forum. No we are not in anyway associated with the The Sovereign Military Order of the Temple of Jerusalem which is abbreviated as the SMOTJ (SMOTJ.org). We do however respect them as our Brothers and Sisters and seek to build a good relationship with them because today, they have good and well-meaning leaders who we respect. Today’s SMOTJ is a good organization that is raising funds to do charitable works and helping Christians in need.

We are called the “OSMTJ” = Ordre Souverain et Militaire du Temple de Jérusalem. Both groups were once under a terribly corrupt leader named Regent Fernando de Sousa Fontes.

In 1969, Regent de Sousa Fontes issued a Magistral Edict convoking a Convent General that would first meet in Paris in September, 1970, with the purpose of electing a new Grand Master. Many of the Priories were tired of de Sousa Fontes’s despotic and undemocratic leadership, his utter contempt for transparency, and blatant mismanagement. At that historic Convent General in Paris, participants democratically elected General Antoine Zdrojewski (the Grand Prior of Europe and of France) to be the next Grand Master. It’s important to remember that de Sousa Fontes authorized and attended this Paris Convent for the purpose of electing a new Grand Master as he believed he was going to win.

Regent de Sousa Fontes would have been finished after that as four of his most important nations left with Grand Master Zdrojewski. However, one powerful nation stayed with the defeated Regent to prop him up, the SMOTJ.org of the United States. In truth, if the United States had also left Regent de Sousa Fontes at that time, it would have been over for him.

However, by 1995, the SMOTJ.org in the United States realized their mistake in following this corrupt Regent de Sousa Fontes and they not only left him, they sued him in Federal Court: SMOTJ Inc. v. de Sousa Fontes, case No. U.S.D.C. Texas No. 3-995CV-0890G.

In the end, everyone realized the corruption of Regent de Sousa Fontes and left him. Our Order, the OSMTJ, just realized it 25 years earlier. To be fair, I would guess the SMOTJ.org would argue this: “We didn’t follow Grand Master Zdrojewski because of the scandals he was involved with.” General Zdrojewski was indeed involved with some scandals, most notably allowing so many members of the French Secret Service join his French Grand Priory and the repercussions that followed. To that point, I’d say that it was better to follow an honest man who accidentally gets caught up in scandal, than a dishonest man like Fernando de Sousa Fontes who was involved with just as many scandals, bribes, and selling titles.

Lest we forget, de Sousa Fontes tried to centralize all power into his hand to enrich himself while Grand Master Zdrojewski did the opposite in giving all the nations autonomy to make their own decisions. They were opposites and Grand Master Zdrojewski was the better man despite his mistakes of getting too involved with the deep politics in France at the time.

If you’d like to read about this history in greater detail, click this link: https://www.theknightstemplar.org/modern-order/
The SMOTJ.org is referred to at the end of that history as the “New OSMTH” as they are part of the larger “OSMTH” Order found at: http://www.OSMTH.org

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in reply to: Please Come Introduce Yourself #3280 |

JamesColuccio wrote:

Greeting Brothers and Sisters,

My name is Brother James GCKT.

It’s an honor to meet you Brother James. We’re glad you joined our discussion forum.

Please will you tell us more about yourself? Are you also on Facebook? If so, please will you send me a friend request to: “Timothy Bryant Jones”

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in reply to: Please Come Introduce Yourself #3278 |

InHisService wrote:

Greetings in the name of Christ. I am new to the group. Looking forward to getting to know you folks this side of glory.

I am a pastor in Missouri where I make my earthly home with my wife and 3 children. My profile has more info.

It is a pleasure and honor to meet you Pastor. Are you also on Facebook? If so, please will you send me a friend request to: “Timothy Bryant Jones”

Non Nobis Domine

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in reply to: Where is everyone from? #3206 |

Thomas Walter Tyler wrote:

Originally I am from Va. Beach, Va. I was a Marine for four years and then Army Airborne. I reside in Fayetteville , N.C. since 1988.

It’s great to meet you Thomas. Welcome to our Forum.

What drew you to North Carolina?

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in reply to: Membership request #3180 |

WindKnight1 wrote:

University of Mary Hardin-Baylor,

Thanks William, I have received your email and replied. I’ve asked you to also introduce yourself to the Prior of Texas, Keith Menefee at: St.James44km@gmail.com

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in reply to: Membership request #3177 |

WindKnight1 wrote:

Hi, my name is William R. Haire and I sent in a membership request and I am extremely interested in becoming a member, but never received a reply.
I am currently a mechanical engineering major at the University of Mary Hardin-Baylor, I am a traditional Baptist, and work as a greeter at a car dealership. If there is anything else needed please let me know.

Thanks for your interest William. I apologize that we have not seen your email requesting information. May I ask you to instead to email your Christian Testimony to: info@OSMTJ.net ?

Thanks and God bless

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in reply to: Grand Priory of the Scots – USA #3151 |

Decorum Eques Auratus wrote:

Very interesting article. I wasn’t aware of such a group either and hadn’t run across them in my research until now. I did notice you mentioned Bob Disney in the latter part of the article. Is that any relation to the Walt Disney line of succession?

LOL! No relation to Walt Disney that I’m aware of 😀

Thanks for your feedback Decorum

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in reply to: Wishing to join the Knights Templar. #3149 |

JOHN WOLF wrote:

Hello my name is John and I am interested in joining and would like to know more about what it is to be a true Knight for God. If any one could help me it would be much appreciated.
Thank you and God bless.

Thanks for your interest John. If you could please email me directly at info@OSMTJ.net I’d be happy to discuss membership with you.
Please understand we’re all volunteers here with families and full-time jobs so we don’t reply fast, but we do reply.

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in reply to: Joining The Knights Templar #3122 |

Hammer wrote:

I was wondering if someone could e-mail me back about joining. I have e-mailed a few people that I could find but no response as of yet. I think I added my phone number on one. Thanks and God bless.

Sean

Try me here Sean and thank you for your interest: info@OSMTJ.net

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in reply to: Interested in joining #3111 |

GrandPrinceTerry wrote:

Good day,

I have sent an email asking about joining this order. I am a very middle class American citizen who became interested in chivalry a little over a year ago when I inherited some lofty royal and tribal titles from a distant cousin who possessed them by direct linege from kingdom’s of Prussia and hungary.

With this being said I am a member of a couple orders by hereditary right but am not completely active in them. I am interested in becoming a knight templar. Please email me.

Sincerely,

Terry Gyulai-Perkins von Wenden

Thanks Terry, I’ll try your to call your phone number today.

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in reply to: membership #3067 |

Welcome to our forum M. Roberts and thanks for your interest in our Order. Please start by emailing me your Christian Testimony to: info@OSMTJ.net
Also please include how your faith and church has affected your life.

Thanks and God bless

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in reply to: i am james e gordon (knightjames775) #3019 |

knightjames775 wrote:

can you tell me when we get our certificates.. i was only asking. i was going to make another donation soon to the knights templar. i have found that since i joined my deeds to help others has given me great respect for many. i have given what i could and asked for nothing in return. i myself have fought a battle to help seniors and others in a hospital where my mother was being taken advantage of because of her having a stroke. i know our god stood along side me as i prayed each day for him to guide me help my mother to come home. i hope i get a answer from your site. god bless and thank you for your time.

Hello James and thanks for your post. Please, if you could email me any questions you have to: info@OSMTJ.net I would appreciate it.
You must attend one of Investiture Services to be Knighted to receive your certificate and to become a Knight. this is because we take being a Knight seriously and no one can become one over the internet. We sincerely thank you for your donation.

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in reply to: Please Come Introduce Yourself #3003 |

kaytlen7 wrote:

Hi there, I was just given the honor of being a Companion-at-Arms with the Order. I so appreciate the opportunity to serve and look forward to learning much and becoming more involved.

With all respect,
Sonya
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We welcome you Sonya in the name of the Lord!

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in reply to: What is it about the Knights Templar that interested you? #3002 |

Scott.Tedesco wrote:

A search for the truth. A church is only as good as the members. Unfortunately in this day in age we are watching most churches fall or succumb to humanist influence. It is heart wrenching at the least and the only viable solution is to associate with those of the strongest faith in Christ. The Knights Templar hold true to the Christian beliefs and practices as other orders give way to political agendas. During these troubling times we need to ask ourselves whether we choose of be “all in” or “all out”. I would choose to be “all in” and take seriously my service to the Lord.

Amen Scott, I couldn’t agree more. There are many Templar groups that have given in to Political Correctness, secular humanism, and the agenda of the United Nations. I believe these compromises are a step too far from our Lord Jesus Christ. In an effort to be accepted in society, they have left the faith. It’s a risky thing to not put our faith in Christ as our #1 priority. It should not be replaced by politics, by being recognized/accepted, by being part of a world body.

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in reply to: Please Come Introduce Yourself #2999 |

KnightofHell wrote:

My name is Orkun Albayrak and i come from Turkey,İstanbul

I was born as a Muslim against my will but
I decided to be a Christian and join you people,if only you accept me

Welcome to you